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2009 FORZAMINARDI.COM CHALLENGE - ROUND 02 - MAL (3-5 APR 2009)
2009 FORZAMINARDI.COM CHALLENGE - ROUND 02 - MAL (3-5 APR 2009)
2009 FORZAMINARDI CHALLENGE: RULES:
1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 point (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-minardi driver who finishes in the highest
position in the race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points
All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is
day-stamp of post Friday).
2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. the glory of being the season's Forzaminardi.com champion...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)
3.0 The organisers are manlio27 and FactyCrab.
4.0 The qualifying and race results FIRST published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed unless the refrees by a majority decision decides to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race. No appeal to organisers' decision which is
final.
5.0 If the organisers cannot make a decision, they will consult R-J and/or
Neil_s and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.
6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session start. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done. it just says which date the edit was done.
7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from not starting the race does not fall under this description of
DQ.
8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.
9.0 The referees of this 2008 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab, manlio27,
Forzaminardi, Neil_s and Minardi4eva (if Neil, R-J, Facty and 4eva agree). A majority decision
from these 5 is required to settle any dispute. If the dispute concerns the
referee's bet, then the other 4 referees must adjudicate and arrive at a majority
decision.
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PLEASE NOTE RULE CHANGES MADE TO 1.0G AND 4.0!!!
2009 Results After Rd. 1 AUS
Pos/Overall Pos 2008/Name/Rd. 1
2009 Results After Rd. 1 AUS
Pos/Overall Pos 2008/Name/Rd. 1
1. 2. Minardi4eva 6
2. 3. JumpeySpyder 5
3. 5. Factycrab 2
3. 6. SuperRoo 2
3. 8. Manlio27 2
3. 11 PistonBroke 2
7. 9. Steamdrivenhammer 0
7. 10 Neil_s 0
7. 1. Stan 0
7. 4. Telstar 0
7. 12 forzaminardi 0
- 7. Minardifan2002 -
Medals Table after Rd 1
Pos/Pos Overall Pos 2008/Gold/Silver/Bronze
1. 2. Minardi4eva 1 0 0
2. 3. JumpeySpyder 0 1 0
3. 5. Factycrab 2
3. 6. SuperRoo 2
3. 8. Manlio27 2
3. 11 PistonBroke 2
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OK, results for round 1 changed once again to above. (Please refer to Minardi4eva's post on Trulli's reinstatement in the round 1 thread).
Rule 4.0 also reverts to as before rd. 1 was run with addition of "unless the refrees by a majority decision decides to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race."
[Edited on 31-3-09 by FactyCrab]
[Edited on 2-4-09 by FactyCrab]
Comments
Pole: Button
1st: Button
2nd: Massa
3rd: Barrichello
4th: Kubica
1st Out: Buemi
best ex Minardi - Trulli
[Edited on 3-4-09 by FactyCrab]
1st: Button
2nd: Trulli
3rd: Rubens
4th: Rosberg
1st Out: Naka's
best ex Minardi - Trulli
rule 4.0 unchanged is best?
1st: Button
2nd: Barichello
3rd: Rosberg
4th: Trulli
1st Out: Kimi
best ex Minardi - Trulli
1st: Barrichello
2nd: Trulli
3rd: Hamilton
4th: Button
1st Out: Bourdais
best ex Minardi - Trulli
1st: Rubens
2nd: Jenson
3rd: Webber
4th: Massa
1st out: Fisi
Best Ex Minardi: Webber
1) Rules for our game, also according to Hamilton's DSQ and Trulli's reinstating in 3rd place. My idea is simply that we have to enforce the result FINALLY omologated by FIA, even though in theory it could imply a reopening of the results of a GP months later. Which is only a theoretical risk. And patience if it means for us reconsidering 2-3 times our table,as it is happening now. For Australia, therefore, I would reinstate the previous table, with Trulli 3rd and best ex Minardi.
I suggest therefore this further change to the rule 4.0
As for the best ex-Minardi rule, considering the current competitivity of Renault, Force India, Toyota and Red Bull, I agree that excluding Alonso makes no sense, so I'm happy with reverting to last year's rule.
2) Considering Clewlis's behaviour in Australia, if it is true that he deliberately overbraked to force Trulli to either overtake or stop, the little guy (who is a super-champion, no question) keeps being a bit too smarty-smarty, and deserves to keep being punished.
Finally, here are my bets for Malaysia:
Pole: Button
1st: Button
2nd: Kubica
3rd: Vettel
4th: Rosberg
First out: Nelsinho
Best ex Minardi: Trulli
1st: J. Button
2nd: R. Barrichello
3rd: J. Trulli
4th: K. Räikkönen
First out: N. Rosberg
Best ex Minardi: J. Trulli
[Edited on 3-4-09 by JumpeySpyder]
1ST: Barrichello
2ND: Rosberg
3RD: Massa
4TH: Button
OUT: Buemi
EXM: Alonso
1st: RAIKKONEN
2nd: MASSA
3rd: BUTTON
4th: BARRICHELLO
1st Out: BOURDAIS
best ex Minardi - WEBBER
Pole - Button
1st - Rubens
2nd - Kimi
3rd - Rosberg
4th - Webber
1st DNF - Piquet
Best ex Minardi - Webber
Serves me right for doing it whilst half asleep
Never mind, hope it turns out for the better.
[Edited on 4-4-09 by Minardi4eva]
Pos/Pos Before/Name/After Rd. 1/Rd. 2/After Rd. 2
1. 2. JumpeySpyder 5 8 13
2. 3. Manlio27 2 8 10
3. 1. Minardi4eva 6 2 8
3. 3. SuperRoo 2 6 8
3. 7. Neil_s 0 8 8
6. 7. Telstar 0 7 7
7. 3. Factycrab 2 2 4
8. 7. forzaminardi 0 2 2
8. 3. PistonBroke 2 0 2
10. 7. Steamdrivenhammer 0 0 0
10. 7. Stan 0 0 0
- 7. Minardifan2002 -
Medals Table after Rd 2
Pos/Pos Before/Gold/Silver/Bronze
1. 2. JumpeySpyder 1 1 0
2. 1. Minardi4eva 1 0 0
3. 3. Manlio27 0 1 1
4. 3. SuperRoo 0 0 2
5. 3. Factycrab 0 0 1
5. 3. PistonBroke 0 0 1
5. 0. Minardi4eva 0 0 1
5. 0. Neil_s 0 0 1
Are the above correct?????
Now don't anybody tell me to give half points because of the 75% rule OK!!!! Thanks.
As for the medals' one, actually Jumpey, myself and Neil all got 8 points, so we shall all get a "gold" medal, and no silver and bronza are awarded.
Table corrected as per below.
2009 Results After Rd. 2 MAL
Pos/Pos Before/Name/After Rd. 1/Rd. 2/After Rd. 2
1. 2. JumpeySpyder 5 8 13
2. 3. Manlio27 2 8 10
3. 1. Minardi4eva 6 2 8
3. 3. SuperRoo 2 6 8
3. 7. Neil_s 0 8 8
6. 7. Telstar 0 7 7
7. 3. Factycrab 2 2 4
8. 7. forzaminardi 0 2 2
8. 3. PistonBroke 2 0 2
10. 7. Steamdrivenhammer 0 0 0
10. 7. Stan 0 0 0
- 7. Minardifan2002 -
Medals Table after Rd 2
Pos/Pos Before/Gold/Silver/Bronze
1. 2. JumpeySpyder 1 1 0
2. 3. Manlio27 1 0 1
3. 1. Minardi4eva 1 0 0
3. 0. Neil_s 1 0 0
5. 3. SuperRoo 0 0 1
5. 3. Factycrab 0 0 1
5. 3. PistonBroke 0 0 1
Concerning rule 4.0, I agree with your suggestion, let's leave it as proposed by you.
Congrats to Neil, Jumpey and (modestly :-)) myself for being the Malaysian round winners, and pity for Telstar and SuperRoo who, with 7 and 6 points respectively, did not get any medal!
"See" you all in Shangai in a couple of weeks!