Italy goes smoke free.

Skruff

Italy is due to outlaw smoking in many places from Jan. 10 and the battle against the ban moved into high gear when the bar and restaurant association discovered owners could be hit with a 2,200 euro (US$2,950) fine if they failed to alert the police when a customer refused to stub out a cigarette.

NZ banned smoking in all work places, including restaurants, cafes and bars on Dec 10th this year.
Despite partaking in the occasional smoke, the law is fantastic.

forzaminardi

Ha! In Italy they smoke even more than in Austria, this is so not going to happen!

Clown

Neil_s

we are already some months into this - it surprises me - because usually we are years behind the rest of the world, eg we still do not have the divorce unfortunately for many people that are suffering, but on this we are on top. he he

Minardus

Last October I was on a business trip to Holland to visit some clients.

In Holland since January it's forbidden to smoke at work places.
I saw 1 company where they had a glass house outside (like a bus stop) where people went to smoke, so they won't get wet when it rains !!!!:P

Every hour they are allowed to go outside 5 minutes !!!!:P

MCSF

NZ is screwed if you want tobacco products - well it was a decade ago. I was chewing tobacco and, since I was heading down to the multi national military base that supports the South Pole I figured I could buy my chew at the post exchange.

No go. The Navy, which ran the place at that time, said people holding military ID from places OTHER than this particular base could not enter the PX. Like a guy would fly all the way to Christchurch NZ to buy tobacco.

Anyway, I decided to go into town and get some on the open market.

Wrong again.

Chewing tobacco has been banned in NZ.

Back to the Navy base and had to wait outside the store and get a proper military soldier/sailor/airman to buy it for me like I was underage trying to by beer on a Friday night.

manlio27

In Italy the law says in the workplaces there must be smoking rooms with air change equipment.

As fpr restaurants, I don't know how much it will work in Italy. personally I am a heavy smoker, and for me having dinner or drinking a beer without the chance of a cigarette would take away half of the pleasure. When I go back to Italy, I will just stop going to restaurants and bar, so I save lots of money, avoid eating shit and have my beers and cigarettes at home sweet home with my friends.

I do not understand why in Italy we always have to copy the Americans, both in the good things and in the stupid things!!

Clown

I was underage trying to by beer

Thats the great thing about our 18+ cig sales laws.
You get to meet lots of hot 16yo chicks who are after a pack :D

forzaminardi

yeah but america has come a long way. people were already smoking less. Also in England people don't smoke much but in Italy you know what a smoked salmon feels like when you come out of a bar.

MCSF

[quote] I was underage trying to by beer

Thats the great thing about our 18+ cig sales laws.
You get to meet lots of hot 16yo chicks who are after a pack :D [/quote]

What do you get for a pack?

hand job?

manlio27

Depends on the cigarette brand, I guess.....and from what's inside! Probably can be even a blow job for a spliff!

Clown

[quote][quote] I was underage trying to by beer

Thats the great thing about our 18+ cig sales laws.
You get to meet lots of hot 16yo chicks who are after a pack :D [/quote]

What do you get for a pack?

hand job? [/quote]No, but they talk to me :cool: ;)

Seriously though, its always funny when you flirt with them in front of their boyfriends. The boyfriend gets real pissed, but doesn't say/do anything or they won't get their nicotine fix :hehe:



[Edited on 21/12/2004 by Clown]

MCSF

Quig:

What do you get for a pack? hand job?

Clown:
[/quote]No, but they talk to me :cool: ;)

Quig:

Same thing for you eh?

Seriously though, its always funny when you flirt with them in front of their boyfriends. The boyfriend gets real pissed, but doesn't say/do anything or they won't get their nicotine fix :hehe:

I knew there was something I liked about you!

Clown

Its also fun to take a quarter of the pack for "tax" :hehe:

MCSF

Donald Trump look out!

forzaminardi

Its also fun to take a quarter of the pack for "tax"

when I was your age (you're 17, no?), I bought some cartons of Marlboro in the Dominican Republic (for 10US$ a carton) and sold them in my school for 4$ a pack (and that was much less than in Austria at that time). Hehe, they nearly fainted because those third world Marlboro's are terribly, terribly strong but hey, they were cheap.:hehe:

Skruff

The levels of a gas linked to cancer have plummeted in bars and on the breath of pub patrons since new smoking laws took effect.

Tobacco researcher Murray Laugesen said he has been surprised by just how much the level of gases linked to second-hand smoking deaths had dropped.

The tests, understood to be the first of their kind in the world, were led by public health research company Health New Zealand and showed hydrogen cyanide gas levels in the six pubs and venues tested had fallen 40 per cent.

They had also fallen 45 per cent on the breath of five researchers who took part in the study since the smoking ban came into force on December 10.

Gas levels were taken before and after the law banning smoking in public places such as bars, restaurants and casinos.

Mr Laugesen, a long-time public health specialist and former chairman of anti-smoking lobby Action on Smoking and Health (Ash), has previously estimated that 400 people die each year from illnesses related to second-hand smoke.

He said today that hydrogen cyanide had been identified as the leading gas in cigarette smoke to affect the heart and blood vessels, and nine out of 10 second-hand smoking deaths were linked to heart attacks or strokes.

He said the gas reductions suggested considerable health benefits for staff and patrons.

"That means there will be real (health) gains," he said.

The research was conducted by Health NZ, the University of Auckland's clinical trials unit and Otago University's national addiction centre, using a commercial model of a gas analyser made by Christchurch company Syft Technologies.

It is believed to be the first time researchers have been able to measure cigarette gas levels at such a sensitive level, and in real time.

It's got to be good for you.