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Just made it out of London in time
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That bus got fucked up. :(
friends from London, post soon and tell us you're alright
We always said it was a question of 'when' not 'if' but we've seen it all before. The difference from the IRA campaigns is the lack of coded warnings and the fact these look like suicide attacks. An IRA man did once blow up a bus but it went off accidentally in his lap before he could get off. Shame.
Londoners bounce back pretty quickly.
PS Quig, thanks for your 'wake up' but we've been conscious over here in the old world for quite a while!
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it doesn't matter whether you're snoozing or are awake, if somebody wants to take other people's lives by taking his own there is very, very little you can do
A little profiling and some targeted hunting might be a good start.
Scares the shit out of me, i ride subways and trains everyday..
really, i felt sick to my stomach when i had to board one this afternoon.
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Death toll around the 50 mark
Bomb scare just been reported in Edinburgh
Not a pleasant day really.
Weve been here before and lived with it for years, wev had the blitz, IRA and various other tossers doing stuff to us!
Wel bounce back. There is no way of stopping these things happening, well there is one, go to 1984 style big brother state, something I am not a big fan of.
Now theyv just given Tony blair a huge amount of amunition to force through ID cards!! Somehting i am also not a fan of!!
We knew it was going to happen someday, just when was the question.
I would of expected them to do something to live8. now that would of caused a stir!!
sorry mr suicide bomber, you can't blow yourself up if you're unable to produce some ID... go figure...
However the solution is not to close all European border to all Arabs, you're generalising too much.
nah please, this is an absolutely ridiculous suggestion.
Also bring back corpral punishment aswell! Thats what will sort this country out!!
As STE said you can't do it without becoming a total police state. If Russia can't stop the Chechens being a hell of a lot further down that path than the West, then better to remain as we are.
FORZA LONDONERS!!!
Read this
http://www.borstal.skinheads.co.uk/borstalhorse.htm
hmmm I wonder what would reform offenders, this or mollycoddeling them and giving hardened criminals 'knitting' classes
As far as 'waking up' is concerned Quig, is it not a fact that greater information sharing is leading to more of these plots being thwarted than actually happen? The decision by Governments to not advertise their wins in this regard is a sound one in my opinion.
You simply cannot stop the suicide bomber using restrictive freedom practices. More likely, would be methods of making prospective targets harder to get at. This can be psychological as well as physical.
I was recently working for an organisation that amongst its businesses were 4,500 retail shops. These shops were all high cash collectors and yet they are never robbed. There are no slamming screens or armed guards, or anything obvious for that matter. What they do have is the result of a great deal of research and testing into what makes a venue unattractive for an opportunistic, or a planned robery. The outcome is they never get robbed. This is the sort of thing that security agencies ought to be including in their considerations in regard to terrorism.
One thing that I do wonder about, particularly in a city as 'observed' as London is, is whay all those spy cameras don't have bomb sniffers attached. Broad brush maybe, but certainly something in the right direction?
Comiserations to Londoners on this latest tragedy.
Ok you say not all of them are fanatic and take their religion to the extreme. I agree, there are many normal people among them for sure. But just try to recall all those stories from Arabic TV channels after 9/11, 95% of all the casual people were celebrating out there. I will never forget that.
We either isolate from Arabs now or give them a chance to make Hitler look not so bad.
Doesn't work like that, for one, you can't watch every yard of your border 24/7 and do it effectively. Niether does bombing them all into kingdom come.
Hearts and minds. Get the good guys on your side and seek their help in scurging "their" people of this menace.
Glad to hear all our Londoner people are ok. The Brit resilience was amazing, from the footage we saw here, the way people handled the situation was incredible. The "Blitz" mentality they were calling. Brilliant.
I will not hold my breath for this to happen.
1.0 get bush off the usa government and withdraw all international presence in the middle east, afghanistan, south america, turket and elsewhere in the third world.
2.0 let the middle east and elsewhere rot with the genocidal, feudalistic and cruel feudal dictatorial rulers if need to.
3.0 solve the palestinian issue once and for all.
then these cowardly bastards have zit reasons to attack/kill anybody else as they would have little cause and sympathy but will be too preoccupied fighting these rulers (see 2.0 above or be killed by them.
wake up usa and wake up britain especially those who vote in and keep bush and blair.
- Islamic leaders in London have condemned the bombings. Muslims were among the dead and injured yesterday. These attacks have nothing to do with individual governments. This is a tiny, perverted minority trying (and failing) to bring down Western civilisation. If anything, they loathe Westernised muslims more than the 'infidel'.
- Scotland Yard, MI5 and MI6 certainly have prevented big attacks since 9/11 - in alliance with the CIA and others. As RJ says, you can't stop suicide bombers all the time. They only need to be 'successful' once. In general, I think infiltration of these groups has been very good (something we're rather good at thanks to the IRA years).
- London has bounced back already. The mood here is one of calm defiance.
What a week! Live 8, Olympics and now this - you can't have the highs without some lows.
This is a great city so don't stop coming. I may even buy you a pint of warm English beer.
Not you, Quig, obviously. Campari, is it?
Forza, viges.