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2011 FORZAMINARDI.COM CHALLENGE - ROUND 04 - ESP (20-22 MAY 2011)
2011 FORZAMINARDI CHALLENGE: RULES:
1.0 Predict the following exactly and gain points each round:
a. Pole getter - 2 points (pole getter is defined as the one who is on pole
when the race is started)
b. Winner of GP - 4 points
c. Second in GP - 3 points
d. Third in GP - 2 points
e. Fourth in GP - 1 point
f. 1st car out after the race has started under the green lights whether
through DNF or DNS (through stalling for eg.) or through DQ (by black flag
for eg.) - 1 point (point given even if DQ is appealed)
g. Name the ex-Minardi driver who finishes in the highest
position in the race amongst all ex-minardi drivers - 2 points
All predictions above must be EXACTLY correct. Should any driver pull out
before the race weekend, his replacement is not automatically substituted in
the bets...the bettors MUST exercise the edit right as provided in clause 6
two days before race day (e.g. if race day is on Sunday, final edit right is
day-stamp of post Friday).
2.0 Prize for the winner with most points at end of season:
a. the glory of being the season's Forzaminardi.com champion...plus whatever additional prize R-J
or the others may want to throw in. :-)
3.0 The organisers are manlio27 and FactyCrab.
4.0 The qualifying and race results FIRST published by formula1.com will be
used to judge the bets placed unless the referees by a majority decision decide to use the amended results following any steward decisions made post race. No appeal to organisers' decision which is
final.
5.0 If the organisers cannot make a decision, they will consult R-J and/or
Neil_s and/or Minardi4eva who shall act as referees.
6.0. All bets must be submitted in the above 1.0 a to g order and must be
submitted before the first quali session starts. Any bets submitted after the
first quali starts will be invalid. All bets MUST be in by before the first
quali but no editing of any bets placed can be done after the end of friday
practices (or in the case of Monaco after Thursday's practices). This is
because when a post is edited, there is no time stated when such edits have
been done, it just says which date the edit was done.
7.0 DQ means disqualification during the race. so any disqualification
resulting from and/or with not starting the race does not fall under this description of
DQ.
8.0 Any additional rules can be added to aid clarity but not to change the
bets format and the points as and when deemed neccessary.
9.0 The referees of this 2011 ForzaMinardi Challenge are FactyCrab, manlio27,
Forzaminardi, Neil_s and Minardi4eva (if Neil, R-J, Facty and 4eva agree). A majority decision
from these 5 is required to settle any dispute. If the dispute concerns the
referee's bet, then the other 4 referees must adjudicate and arrive at a majority
decision.
Results after Rd 4 (TUR):
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Pos/Pos Before/Name/After Rd.3/Rd. 4/After Rd. 4
1. 1. PistonBroke 23 8 31
2. 3. JumpeySpyder 19 11 30
3. 2. Telstar 20 9 29
4. 5. Neil_s 13 11 24
5. 6. SuperRoo 12 11 23
6. 4. Factycrab 15 4 19
7. 8. Manlio27 7 11 18
8. 6. Lease 12 2 14
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Comments
Pole: Vettel
1st: Vettel
2nd: Hamilton
3rd: Webber
4th: Button
first out: Glock
best ex: Webber
Neil_s:
Pole Vettel
1st Vettel
2nd Alonso
3rd Webber
4th Hamilton
first out Kartikeyan
best ex Alonso
Lease:
Pole - Webber
1st - Webber
2nd - Vettel
3rd - Button
4th - Hamilton
Best Ex - Webber
1st Out - Maldonado
1st - Webber
2nd - Vettel
3rd - Rosberg
4th - Alonso
Best Ex - Webber
1st Out - Maldonado
1st: Webbo
2nd: Vettel
3rd: Clewlis
4th: Alonso
First out: Perez
Best ex-Minardi: Webbo
1st - Vettel
2nd -Webber
3rd - Hamilton
4th - Rosberg
Best Ex - Webber
1st Out - Kathikeyan
Disclaimer: if world ends beforehand - then no-one wins!
1st: M. Webber
2nd: S. Vettel
3rd: L. Hamilon
4th: N. Rosberg
first out: J. Trulli
best ex: M. Webber
1. 3. Telstar 29 9 38
2. 1. PistonBroke 31 6 37
3. 2. JumpeySpyder 30 2 32
4. 4. Neil_s 24 4 28
5. 5. SuperRoo 23 0 23
5. 6. Factycrab 19 4 23
7. 7. Manlio27 18 2 20
7. 8. Lease 14 6 20
1) RBR CAn be beaten. Macca should just manage to take away those 2 tenths more, and Clewlis will have a real chance;
2) Mark has definitively lost his momentum. This was HIS weekend, heàd been fastest on track all Friday and Saturday, and look how he spoilt everything at the first corner; I hope to be wrong, but I hardly believe he'll ever again end a GP ahead of Seb, unless Seb has a problem, and
3) Wonderful city as Barça may be, Montmelò circuit should be out of the calendar immediately. Even Jerez would be better.
Qualifying can only get worse after this. One run each session will be it from now on. Schumaker's strategy will also be followed by others.
You can't take anything away from Vettel. He did an exceptional job and fully deserved the win. From Lewis' comments, he was never really in a position to overtake, and was just holding on to a car with no KERS, so I wouldn't be running up the RB Can BE Beaten flag just yet.
You have to ask if Mark Webber found a way of getting a car off the grid, then he would have been WDC last year. But he hasn't, he doesn't, and he is pretty much stuffed now. After Fernando got the Ferrari up the inside, Webber was out of it, because the only way past was via the pits, and Vettel gets first call there because of his points position and rightly so. Sure Mark loves Monaco, and Vettel is hesitant there, but this is this year, not last year, and a differ5ent Vettel. Even if Mark gets up in Monaco, it won't really change the trend of the season. I very much fear that it is over for him now.
Wasn't the Ferrari awful!? The big cranky dude must have felt humilliated by that performance. Fernando is trying his guts out, but it's a pig. Massa is only there for the money and clearly is not in any way committed at the moment.
The rest of them are going backwards. No bad thing that Kubica can't be there, because his rep would be going backwards at the same rate as Lotus Renault. No point waxing about Heidfeld because whilst he made a great run through the field on the freshies, he still finished a lap down on the leaders.